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TheVikingKing04 wrote:

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I didn know that you had to like everything Cher does in order to be a Cher fan. I think that I you don't like a song, an album, a concert, a show. You should be able to say, well I didn't like it with out being attacked, by people who think that you're in the obligation to like every single thing Cher said. They say, "Oh well look at the postive, at least she's performing" ok, she's performing, and?????????????????????????? The world hasn't changed, the world didn't stop turning, when she stop touring, and the world didn't stop turning when she started performing again. The mentality behind that scares me, and make me question their mental state. At least she's performing, what, do you need her to perfrom to breathe?????? Really.

I think that Cher fans should be able to come to this forum and talk about not only about what they like about Chers work, but also about what they don't like. Instead, everytime somebody has posted something negative or isnt kissing Cher's ass, or lighting a candly at a gay bathhouse and asking for a glitter cover blessing, all of the sudden they have to deal with this group of club hopping queen, who think that all there is about being gay is dance music, feather boas, and spiky hair telling them that they are not "CHER FANS." For me that's insulting.

If some people are wiling to pay almost 300 dollars for a carbon copy show, or for a costume show, then great. If some people are wiling to pay 300 dollars to see Cher just sit on a chair and fart, then awome. But, if I am going to pay 300 hundred dollars for a show, a show that was suppposed to be, by Cher's own words, "NEW" and nothing she's ever done before, and sold and this amazing, spectacular production and I go there and it's basically "Farewell" tour re-costumed. Then, I should be able to come here and say, you know what, I didn't like it, without having to worry about a bunch people trying to crusify me because of it.

Another thing that severly annoys me from some of you. Ceasars Palace IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CHANGES MADE TO THE SET LIST. IF there's one person you should point the finger too for the songs being cut, and the way the shows work, one word CHER. She's the one that says, yes and no. She's the one that decides, ok, I want this and I want that. I am so sick and tired of the notion that for some reason, Cher is being pulled by the ear and being told what to do. You can't have it both way, you can't buildt Cher to be this woman in control of her carreer and then turn around and imply that she's being forced to do things against her will. It's the samething with the "FAREWELL TOUR" She kept complaing and bitching about how tired she was, "Oh, this show is too much" "Oh, it's tiresome" "Oh, I don't want to do this anymore" "I dont like I don't like that' But on the other hand, she was agreeing to extend her tour, she was agreeing to them.

Cher and her people had a lot of time, from when the ink was dry on that contrat to try to put the greatest show on the planet. I know that Cher has songs that she has to sing. You had alot of time from the time rehearsals started to say, "Ok, this works" "Ok, that doesnt work" No, instead they took the same set list as of the last two tour, and just put videos in between songs, added a few new dancers, a few new outfits, a snow globe, a chandiler with lights on it, and there you go. They had enough time to sit down and dig, through 40 years worth of material and say, "Ok that'll surprise them" Lets do "Sonny and Cher" and play this songs, lets pay tribute to the Cher show, lets do this. No, instead, the samething all over again.

Where is the show that was supposed to blow my mind away????????? Where is the show that was supposed to be nothing I've never seen before???????????? Instead, they recreated, rebuilded the stage to look something like the stage from the last tour, and nothing else.

If I or any of my fellow Cher fans/board members want to come here and say, you know what, I didn't like this, I didn't like that. We shold be able to do so, without worring about this group of people, attacking us and saying that we are not Cher fans because we refuse to worship Cher as some sort of plastic god. I've been around here enough to know what the response both public and private are going to be, I saw go ahead, you're only proving my point. And that's why people don't come here, that's why people stay away from the boards.

Ok I'm trying to figure out exactly what you're saying til I figured it out. This is a Cher board... a board full of Cher fans, full of people who love her, full of people who think nothing bad about her and people who think Cher could not go wrong at all. This is a place where we worship her so much so you can expect people to be here who will hate negative things about her and will do anything to defend her (and that includes me). We defend Cher and we don't like people talking badly about her so we do get pissed off if someone does.

Some of us worship her so much that if we see anyone saying anything negative about her or something that appeared negative to her, then we will defend her. Yes, a discussion board is where we discuss but remember, this is not just ANY discussion board. It's not a board for Tina Turner, Janet Jackson, Madonna, the Jonas Brothers, or whoever else other than Cher. This is a discussion board about Cher... a board posted by people who love and worship Cher and you're bound to find people who think of no one like the way we think of Cher and you're bound to find people who will defend Cher. This is an actual CHER board, not just any board at all. This is not a message board at imdb.com or anything like that where haters or people who don't worship her enough would come here to talk about Cher but if we did find someone like that then yes, we will go all the way to defend Cher. That's why no one should expect to be able to say anything negative about Cher then not be attacked. This is a CHER board, rather than just any public board so yeah, you can't just say, "Oh, ok, I can just say Cher's feet are too big then people won't attack me." If you think that, you're dreaming! Yes, some people might not attack you for saying that but when you come to a board full of Cher worshippers or people who think of Cher as an important part of their lives, expect to be attacked if you say one negative word about her! Not everyone is going to accept a negative word you say and they are going to defend her, when they can.

So when you come to a huge Cher board then say one negative thing about her or what she does, expect to be attacked. People being attacked doesn't surprise me at all. If I attacked anyone, I apologize (and I am still putting it behind me now) but yes, you can bet you will be attacked by someone. Don't even say this is just any discussion board where all kind of people will come here to discuss then say that you will not be attacked.

As far as what the big deal is or the mentality thingy.... maybe Cher isn't a priority to everyone but to everyone else, it is. I feel like my life feels different that Cher is around. Cher makes me happy, when I'm in a bad mood or having a bad day and I pop in a CD of hers, I'm smiling again! I have never stayed so faithful to a celebrity before until Cher. I looked at other artists when she took her three year break but Cher was still number 1 to me. She helped me figure out by her inspiration and her works what I wanted to do in the future and I'm pursuing it right now. So I'm happy. I'm happy Cher is around. I have never felt more better when I hear more about her, read new things about her, read her updates, listen to her music or watched her DVDs. I don't like to hear from people who think I should put Cher as number 2 or lower in my list because, honey, that ain't gonna happen! You may not understand how much Cher really means to me and some of us but that's how we feel.

LesDudek wrote:

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Viking has a good point..whether I agree or not with it.
Nobody has the right to sway other peoples feelings or thoughts.
Personally I LOVE reading bad reviews on her albums or concerts as it makes em think'oh wow..i thoyught it was great'
like personally I think the believe album is THE worst thing she has ever turned out in her career..but i know 90% of you guys adore that cd.
Its good to all have an opinion.

as it turns out, the worst CD she made really boosted her career!